Ok Shannon, the gloves come off.
The vote of the majority doesn't make it right. If we allowed majority rule every time, we'd be having public executions, because the majority, given free reign would vote for lots of things that they don't think effects them, but seem like a good idea.
War in Iraq is all well and good until it's your brother that's sent there. Now that would be ok if the war is just. Are you saying the war in Iraq is a good thing, and should have been started? You voted for it twice. I wonder how Bush and Howard are going to dig their way out of it. History tells us that the Soviets in Afghanistan completely cocked things up. Why are America going to be any different this time?
Sure they can pull out of Afghanistan even before the job is finished. But they can't pull out of Iraq because of oil, and the Saudis won't let them! It would destabilise the Middle East more than when they entered the Middle East. Clearly there was a plan for war, but no plan for peace. Winning the "war" was easy. What next?
And just as you can smirk with the election of your two right wing governments, so I can sit back and watch the deaths pile up in Iraq and keep asking you when is enough. And I will continue to remind you.
Remind me again, why did Bush and Howard go into Iraq? Howard didn't have to take Australia into the war. Look at Canada and New Zealand.
Watching George W Bush is like an eerie repeat of Chauncy Gardiner (Peter Sellers) in Being There. A complete moron nearly being elected president, except in real life it happened. Twice! There is enough anecdotal evidence from those who know Bush and grew up with him, that he's not quite all there. A simple man with a simple message. Well yes, that appeals to the majority because they want equal or more than they currently have, and sod your fellow person. I'm all right Jack.
Michael Moore may be a left wing propagandist, but the central theme of Fahrenheit 9/11 is, "Would you send your children to fight in Iraq, Mr/Mrs Congressman?"
Hell No! The war is for the morons that voted for us to go fight. Oh and those who didn't vote for us.
America didn't put enough troops into Afghanistan to finish the job off quickly.
America put enough troops into Iraq to win the war, but not to win the peace. They didn't secure the borders. They didn't secure the cities. They didn't even secure some of the installations. And you and they voted these idiots in again. Good Luck. We the others also pay the price.
Most politicians are creepy morons. Bush. Howard. Even Clinton. Read up some more about Kerry, and all things being equal, America just turned down the best they're going to get for a long long time, because the thought of Hillary Clinton doesn't exactly fill me with hope. The politics of the USA, UK and Australia is a fight for centre right, so it's not as though any in opposition are going to radically alter the economics, so it's down to personality. I can accuse Howard of lying but not incompetence or corruption, but I could accuse Bush of that and probably be right.
And as for saying "He's our President too" that's like saying Hitler is our Fuhrer now, democratically and constitutionally voted in. You have to draw the line somewhere, and whilst I can count the pennies piling up in my bank with Howard, Bush is a far more dangerous entity.